Внимание!
Добрый день, друзья!
В последнее время участились случаи, когда авторы САМИ стирают свои старые ссылки и делают публикации с уже опубликованным контентом, но с новыми линками. Все понимают, для чего это делается.
Добрый день, друзья!
Так вот: если в старой публикации результатом нажатия на ссылку будет результат "Deleted by uploader", то новая публикация автора не будет активирована!
Основания для репоста:
1. файл и зеркала на него удалены хостером;
2. лучшее качество контента (более высокий битрейт, лучшее качество скана и т.п.)
Если вы хотите добавить новую ссылку, то вставляйте ее в старую публикацию.
С уважением, ваша команда AvaxHome.
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Attention!
Hello Friends!
Recently cases when authors erase the old links have become frequent and make publications with already published content, but with new links. Everyone understand for what it is done.
Hello Friends!
And so: if in the old publication result of clicking the link will be result "Deleted by uploader" the new publication of the author will not be activated!
The bases for repost:
1. A file and mirrors on it are removed by hoster (forbidden content, time-out, etc.);
2. Better quality of a content (higher bitrate, better quality of scan of book, etc.)
If you wish to add the new link then insert it into the old publication.
Best regards, your AvaxHome Team.
I guess it comes from being so self-centered. Sure, it's YOUR site, so YOU make the rules. OK...
In that particular instance, may I suggest to immediately re-post the link on another site, remove the "original" one and clearly brand the poster as whatever you want to call him/her.
В ЛЮБОМ СЛУЧАЕ ЭТОТ САЙТ ЛУЧШИЙ,СПАСИБО
И неплохо бы новичкам-"аплоудерам" и тем , кто знает , что его ссылки продержатся на Рапиде день - два об этом ПРЕДУПРЕЖДАТЬ!
Ещё раз ВСЕМ СПАСИБО за муз. заботу о НАС !!!
Reposts / reuploads are a much more complex topic as it looks on first sight - starting from the difference if same or different publishers up tp the time
distance between the publications.
Some weeks ago I startd to write a text about this topic - just to avoid to write the same again and again in PMs to publishers. But after 3 hours of typing I gave up and decided that it is getting so complex no-one would read it in full.
What Alexpal describes here is mainly based on the bad practise some of our publishers started for collecting more premium points / other advantages.
Base for a repost is that the original files are no longer available on the storage hoster. In NORMAL case this means that they had been deleted because either somesone sent complaints to the storage hoster or they expired because of fixed date limit or no downloads for a period of time.
In such cases any repost is very welcome.
Some publishers started to abuse this. After a few days they delete the files themselves to be able to put out the same again as a new publication to fetch more downloaders and have better business.
Such "reposts" are NOT welcome (to say it in a friendly way). They waste our resources and they waste the time of our moderators who have to check and handle them.
Even worse is the practice of not only deleting the files, but also fully deleting the complete text of their old publication, so moderators should have no chance to recognize such a "repost".
In short: AvaxHome modertors are not as stupid as these guys think. :-) We not only have some memories to what we moderated before, we can also check former states of a publication. If you wanna play such games: Fine, but not at AvaxHome.
For completeness I should add: In very rare cases a message "DELETED BY UPLOADER" can also mean that the uploader's account had been hacked. We TRY to give psychological assistance in such cases, as far as possible :-)
Even knowing how you will analyze each of my words :-), I will try to bring up some light.
"You don't seem to understand that every time you refuse/delete a post you are in fact depriving the community of something that might be of interest to many."
We do not "delete" publications (besides the auto-delete of refused publications when the list gets way too long).
The word "refuse" might be a bit misleading. In most cases a refuse is nothing else as a temporary refuse.
And even temporary refuses can only happen if publishers do not take care for our FAQ / rules. Every moderator HATES to refuse a publication - it is much more work as just clicking on the CONFIRM button.
But we need to keep some level of quality. This quality is the reason why most of our users are with us.
1. Forbidden content refuse
The FAQ clearly tells the very few forbidden topics. If you think that forbidding porn movies or nazi propaganda on our site is "depriving the community of something that might be of interest to many" you are for sure on the wrong site.
2. Duplicate refuse
Many of our publishers take great care to keep their uploads alive. There is much content at AvaxHome uploaded 1 year and longer ago you still can download. Shall we ignore their great work and let other people post copies? BTW, real fun starts when a moderator oversaw a duplicate for a prior upload from one of our point collectors and "business guys" :-)
3. Temporary refuse because of missing information or picture
Each and every AvaxHome publiation needs a picture. If a publisher forgot the picture we write in the refuse text "Please add missing picture" and a few minutes later, after adding a picture, the publication can go online.
Same for missing information. For each type of publication the FAQ clearly tells what information should be included. If a publisherforgets something, we clearly tell what needs to be added and a few minutes later it can go online - if it is with complete info.
Asking to include all needed information is not to torture our publishers - it just makes sure that our downloaders have all the info they need to decide if they download or not.
Yep, the above 3 points are all types of refuses. For most people they make sense.
In a "perfect world" where each publisher would create phantastic publications no rules or refuses would be needed at all. Each moderator dreams of publications which can be handled in seconds with hust one mouseclick on theCONFIRM button. But this is a dream only ...
If you ever would see an AvaxHome without moderation and refuses you would just jump to a different site, ignoring AvaxHHome in future.
"I guess it comes from being so self-centered. Sure, it's YOUR site, so YOU make the rules. OK..."
Do I need to comment this? :-)
"In that particular instance, may I suggest to immediately re-post the link on another site, remove the "original" one and clearly brand the poster as whatever you want to call him/her."
You really should have the "fun" to moderate AvaxHome for a few hours. I am really sorry that our software is not prepared for such a temporary lesson in real life education.
What Alexpal desribes here is not a little error a publsher made - some greedy guys wants to make more money and try to abuse the service we give them for free. They waste both our resources and moderators time. Feel free to create an own site and invite them to you :-)
Any repost/reupload must have something new.
But in case of someone repost my publication, with the same material, even without anything new. What will the MODS do with that publication?
For example:
Two posts with almost the same "news name"
+ My publication
+ Someone else's publication
I guess you're the same bully I've met before, but without the numbers. You couldn't make it eh? So someone cut them off... Don't worry, you can still be a prick, though. :-)
Yes indeed, I do analyse, and weight my words, rather than just letting myself run at the mouth/keyboard. I'll have to admit I'm sometimes envious: I'll never be able to come up with such a lengthy post with so little substance. Are you in politics? Nah, you most likely are some kind of bureaucrat.
Whatever way you may try to paint it, you do exerce censorship. Period. Its YOUR site, YOU own it, YOU make the rules. OK... Well, actually Avax does, so you're very right not to comment on that. You could only wind up showing as an ass licker, or be kicked out ;-)
Censorship is denying access to information. It is imposing your own prejudices and limitations on others. It is trying to shrink them to your size. Of course, it is only for their own good.
But I'm already flying too high here. Let's get down to more mundane matters.
"Every moderator HATES to refuse a publication".
Boy, it shows you haven't met many. Most just LOVE it, particularly when they are free to indulge in their own personal likes or dislikes. Just clicking on the CONFIRM button is soooo dull, man... But not at AvaxHome. No sir.
"If you ever would see an AvaxHome without moderation and refuses you would just jump to a different site ignoring AvaxHHome in future."
Why not try it for a change? Of course, just a rethorical question. Now, I vaguely remember a time... Well, it was long ago... No bully then...
"But we need to keep some level of quality ...".
The site is certainly famous for quantity. How many new pages a day?
"You really should have the "fun" to moderate AvaxHome for a few hours. I am really sorry that our software is not prepared for such a temporary lesson in real life education."
Now, if you are telling me here that this is the way you have been taught "real life", may I suggest you shouldn't speak/type unless allowed to by an adult. And get some education meanwhile. :-)
Cheers
@ JXSmith ..
Man , everything you've said is nonsense , it's simple to post here & Bully is one of the Most Understanding & Tolerant members of the moderation team .. I know this & so does the others ,, you may need to give a second thought about what you have said ..
think about it this way . Why Spam the Board with Old stuff while it still can be accessed Via the Original Linkx ? ..
Mister Speaker Boss, I yield to the mob. I'm signing off.
It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority. By definition, there are already enough people to do that.
I'm on your side, congrulations. My English is not so good like yours to expres my toughts but I think just the same!
It's time that some one talking.
If we speak about additional pictures to publications, it's nice to see them too. I do not see any pictur a months long.
What is the sens ad them if you can not see them?:(
It is ??? for the moderators.
"But in case of someone repost my publication, with the same material, even without anything new. What will the MODS do with that publication?"
For all publications we first use our search engine to do a duplicate check. When we find a publication of same content we open it and clicck on the download links to see if the links do still work. If they do still work, we refuse the new publication. If the download is no longer available, we are glad that the new publication will make it available again and confirm it to go public (if there are no other reasons forcing a refuse).
+ My publication
PC Magazine 2006 December 26th issue No.23
+ Someone else's publication
Does not exist :-) Seems someone already took care :-))
As I wrote above, duplicate checks are done with the search engine - we have about 70000 publiations online, we cannot locate publications just by our brain. :-) YOU of course know very well what you published, so YOU of course recognized the other publication very quick.
For doing a search we need to type in what we search for. For a music album it is easy: Artist and album name. For a book the title or even the ISBN and so on.
But for magazines it is not easy , because no-one writes the data in the same form.
You write "2006 December 26th"
another publisher may write ""2006, December 26th"
the next one perhaps ""December 26th 2006" or "Dec 26th" or even "12-26" and so on.
For the human brain it is all the same meaning, but for a search engine doing a KEYWORD or PHRASE search it is fully different.
If the moderator has nothing else to do :-) he might be willing to do a search for only "PC Magazine" and check all of them - but what if a publisher wrote "PCMagazine" or "PC Mag" or "PC-Magazine"?
But besides search engine moderators have their own brain with some memories. If for example I did confirm the same magazine just 1 day ago myself I remember that, for example by the cover picture. In this case I know it makes sense to do a deeper search to locate the one posted short before. BTW: We also remember publishers who often change the style of such titles to try to pass moderation and for these guys we do more careful searches :-)
Or in short: If you want to get rid of duplicates, please post music albums or books instead of magazines :-))
"I guess you're the same bully I've met before, but without the numbers."
Exactly. Therefore my little hint in the first sentence :-)
"I'll have to admit I'm sometimes envious: I'll never be able to come up with such a lengthy post with so little substance."
Don't worry - I already think about writing a book about this topic which will train you step-by-step.
"Whatever way you may try to paint it, you do exerce censorship. Period."
Yep! I even censor which parts of your pleasing words I quote and which not.
"Well, actually Avax does, so you're very right not to comment on that. You could only wind up showing as an ass licker, or be kicked out ;-)"
Please stop spreading such private information here. BTW, after each licking session we relax by discussing which user will be banned next. If I remember well, we are already near the range of usernames starting with JX. Oops - does it really make sense to answer if you perhaps might not be able to read it?
<wonderful parts skipped because lack of time, sorry>
""But we need to keep some level of quality ..."."
"The site is certainly famous for quantity. How many new pages a day?"
Did you left school before learning how to count? Hint: Each page has the same number of publications, so if you are clever and know how to multiplicate you can even be quicker as with counting.
"Now, if you are telling me here that this is the way you have been taught "real life", may I suggest you shouldn't speak/type unless allowed to by an adult. And get some education meanwhile. :-)"
After a bit licking :-) Avax allowed me.
Ah, I was sure that this will be fun. Hope next time I have more spare time. I also Hope all readers recognized how serious your answer was. :-)
You follow the view of sharing and do not worry about reposts, that is great. But many other publishers do care. there is almost no day I do not have at least 1 complaint about a duplicate which went public. The duplicate checks take the most time of the moderating.
About JXSMITH: TNX for your very kind words! It is hard to make no joke now, but you could misunderstand it also, so I tell you in clear: I was fully prepared for such an answer and I enjoyed each and every word. We already had much fun in the past and he is "allowed" to talk to me in such careful selected words :-) In short: Hewas just kidding me. (@ JXSMITH: Shut up!)
"@JXSmith
I'm on your side, congrulations. My English is not so good like yours to expres my toughts but I think just the same!
It's time that some one talking. "
I'm very sorry to disappoint you. Same as you fully misunderstood how I tried to help you by carefully explaining what you could have also read yourself in the FAQ you fully misunderstood _WHY_ JXSMITH was talking in this style to me.
I was glad he did. I enjoyed it. It was the best fun I had on this long day. I'm the leader of the JXSMITH fan club.
"I do not see any pictur a months long.
What is the sens ad them if you can not see them?:(
It is ??? for the moderators."
Yes, all pictures are for the bad moderators only. We kill them / eat them / send them to JXSMITH or whatever you prefer :-)
Serious: You have a problem with your browser / firewall or adblocker, what ever you use. Make sure that Javascript and REFERER are allowed for the domains avaxhome.ws AND pixhost.eu (our picture server) and suddenly you will see what all other users already see: Wonderful pictures.
You see, I again risk to receive such a "friendly" answer like your last mail but I still try to help you. Do you allow me to send a copy to JXSMITH? I'm sure he would enjoy it much more as I did.
Now, everybody stupid but you.
You are giving me computer leson, thanks but I don't need it.
My browser is ok, firewal , javascript etc. is OK too...if not I could not see any pictures over the internet. Avax is unik site that dont shaw the pictures from publications. On every site over the internet, I can see the pictures but not here???? :(
It is about my browser, please don't make me laugh..:):):)
Wonderlly, I see at avax only advertesing pictures but not single one from publications.
You eat them or not, I don't care but it is more than pitty without pictures..:(
Of course you have to be right again, of course you are the mister moderator, there is nothing that you don't know...everybody stupid but you...:)
Thank you for your kind support.¡Qué lo pases bien!
Please do not pay much attention to what Bully could type. He just had too much of the good stuff he seems to freely get at Avax (Or is it from Avax?), and he must have spilled some on his keyboard...
Seems to happen more and more frequently... At least once on every post of his on this thread.
@Bully:
Shame on you for not publicly thanking Alexpal for trying to protect you from the Big Bad Wolf. Could it be because he is, too, getting some of this special care of yours in private? Must be quite a treat for you, the guy really seems to be so full of it.
Actually, I was kicked out of school. Guess what for: Antisocial behaviour (PC hadn't been invented yet). But I was lucky enough to be trained in Cobol afterwards, so I coud learn writing proper English. Look at what damage starting instead with C or PHP could do to someone's writing...
Since JX is rather hard to pronounce with a mouth full, I guess I escaped being sent to Glavnoye Upravleniye Ispravitelno-trudovykh Lagerey i kolonii for now. Bully, please have mercy: Do intercede for me at the throne (Should I say at the seat?) of Iosif Avax, Good Fortune of the (Internet) People. If I'm not banned, I promise to dutifully read your prose for the years to come. Isn't that enough punishment?
Now, I'm really sorry you started ratting on me. My turn now: I want everybody to know that this had been an elaborate -in Bully's mind, at least- scam to generate support for one of the "Most Understanding & Tolerant members of the censorship team". Well, let's say 9/11 might be deemed as gross, but surely more successful.
As for being accepted in my very exclusive club, you'll first have to show some IQ. What's your bra size number?
2Unipredator:
По первому вопросу: есть мнение, что на днях мы сможем предложить на суд уважаемых камрадов некое решение, способное оные обиды минимизировать.
По второму: а он работает; я сегодня с утра и в течение всего дня им пользовался и никаких сбоев не заметил. (на всякий случай пошел и еще раз проверил) Да, точно – все в полном порядке.
You're just kidding me, right?
I certainly liked the site better back then when there were none.
2JXSmith: You do not know Russian? It is a pity. And I do not know English language. Therefore I use the electronic translator. The electronic translator - a primitive thing. Probably, you joke. I do not know. I read computer translation. And this translation seems to me the insult.
Therefore I ask once again. You wish to offend command AvaxHome? You do not like our activity? You are able to do better?
OK, I very closely listen. Only try to write easier. Otherwise the translator will not understand.
Indeed, it is a pity I don't master Russian. Believe me; I'd really love to level with you in your own language like I do in others.
I cannot, so you are asking me to fall back to some form of primitive exchange.
I'm sorry to say I'm just not interested in such type of communication.
May I thus refer you to Bully? I trust the paleface to speak not with a forked tongue, and, for being such a (self-proclaimed) expert in "real life mail", to select the proper signs for that mission. Moreover, I understand you trust him, too. :-)
Whereas you were instrumental in nurturing such an eclectic community;
Whereas some genuine –and exclusive- gems could be found on your site;
Whereas you tend to favour the posting of mirrors;
Whereas you did not resort to the usual threats with me;
Whereas your anxiety might need to be brought down to an acceptable level:
Now, therefore, be it
Resolved to answer your questions as bluntly as possible and refuse to be held responsible for doing so.
Moderation = Censorship | Oppression | Imposing your prejudices on others | Breeding idiots.
Moderator = Thought Pig | Petty Bureaucrat. (| = Logical OR)
Do I like your activity? See recital above.
Could I do better? Most assuredly. We might disagree on the term “better”, though ;-).
Am I joking? [SIZE=XTRA LARGE] ? [/SIZE]
Уважения.
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Умеренность = цензура | утеснение | наводя ваши предубежденности на других | разводящ идиотов.
Модератор = Свинья Мысли | Подленький Бюрократ. (| = Логически ИЛИ)
Сделайте я полюбите ваша деятельность? См. список выше.
Смог я сделать более лучше? Наиболее конечно. Мы могли противоречить на термине "более лучшей", хотя ; -).
Я шучу? [ SIZE=XTRA БОЛЬШОЕ ] ? [/РАЗМЕР]
Respects.
"Now, everybody stupid but you.
You are giving me computer leson, thanks but I don't need it."
You say that you do not see the pictures about 1 million of users see. Seems all their computer are wrong except of your one :-)
"My browser is ok, firewal , javascript etc. is OK too.."
I wrote javascript and REFERER. Check your REFERER setting. I mentioned browser because good browsers like Opera have own options to filter javascript.
Try this url
http://pixhost.eu/avaxhome/big_show.php?/avaxhome/2006-11-30/Attention_orig.jpg
and confirgure your software until you see the picture.
"if not I could not see any pictures over the internet. Avax is unik site that dont shaw the pictures from publications. On every site over the internet, I can see the pictures but not here???? :("
Oh my God ... Do you really not notice that EVERYONE except you is seeing the pictures? Try AvaxHome on the computer of one of your friends and you will see the pictures.
And if you do what I wrote - allowing BOTH javascript and REFERER for BOTH domains - you will see them too. Both options are normally enabled on any operating system / browser so other people see the pictures. You blocked at least one of these options so you see them not.
"It is about my browser, please don't make me laugh..:):):) "
Do you even know which options your browser includes which might be set wrong?
"Wonderlly, I see at avax only advertesing pictures but not single one from publications."
1 ... 2 ... 3 ... 10 OK ... The advertising pictures come from advertising sites, not from our picture server. But all pictures of publications are stored on our own server. A simple look on the URLs can show you this.
To avoid abuse of our picture server it does a referer check - most advertising sites do not. If you block this check you will not see the pictures.
"Of course you have to be right again, of course you are the mister moderator, there is nothing that you don't know...everybody stupid but you...:)
OK, I finally reach the point where I do no longer care at all if you ee the pictures or not. To make you happy I delcare in public:
1. AvaxHome has no pictures
2. You are fully correct
3. All other users seeing pictures should visit a doctor.
"Shame on you for not publicly thanking Alexpal for trying to protect you from the Big Bad Wolf."
You really do not even oversee such little details :-) I sent him a PM with a link to a copy of my "JXSMITH for dummies" introduction.
"Actually, I was kicked out of school. Guess what for: Antisocial behaviour"
Yep, a hard world for people not willing to lick.
"But I was lucky enough to be trained in Cobol afterwards,"
You guy really had a bad life. I was more lucky and had the pleasure of RPG II :-)
" so I coud learn writing proper English.
Writing? Isn't punching the correct word?
"Look at what damage starting instead with C or PHP could do to someone's writing..."
Less damage as Forth :-)
"JXSmith: It seems to me, or you offend moderators AvaxHome.ru?"
See him in the same meaning as my last 2 mails to you. You have to remove his clothes first.
@ JXSMITH
OK, I wrote in public, special for you. But now YOU have the problem that you will fully misunderstand my last sentence to Avax because you do not have the needed context :-)
"Moderation = ... Breeding idiots."
The more I read here, the more I have to agree to your thesis. ;-)